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READER'S LETTERS DECEMBER 2007
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From: Tim, 31st December 2007
Hi Jeff
I have a lot of respect for the fact that you interact with
football fans and reply to us, but can you please explain why you were a coward
in the 2004 FA Cup Final by failing to have the bottle to send Dennis Wise off?
Also why did you send Sir Alex off at St James' Park when it was the most blatant foul ever on Giggs and he was bound to be incensed at such an inept decision.
Thanks
Tim
Jeff's reply
Hi Tim
Unlike some others who raise queries, you have done it without making foul mouthed infantile personal insults, so I will give you an honest reply.
Dennis Wise is one of those players who you love to hate unless he actually signs for you. Then he becomes a hero. Robbie Savage, Paul Ince and Lee Bowyer are similar players in this sense.
Most people who criticize me for not sending him off are just Wise haters. It is funny how Sunderland fans now idolize Roy Keane but used to castigate him when he was with Manchester United. I could give you scores of other examples.
Secondly, he did not do anything to deserve being sent off. I had words with him, cautioned him and he then subbed himself.
With regard to Sir Alex, I cannot totally disagree with the incorrectness of the decision that was made on the field. That did not, however, justify his continued foul mouthed verbal vilification of the ref, the assistant and myself. Sure he might be annoyed but it was hardly the behaviour of a Knight of the Realm!
You might not agree but those are opinions and reasons.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Mr Anderson, 30th December 2007
Ever thought of changing your facial hair Jeff? It's so 1970s.
Jeff's reply
Everything comes round again in fashion mate. Who knows, I may be back in the groove one day - even Benitez has latched on.
I can't wait for Crombies, Doc Martens, etc to make a come back. Those days perhaps were not perfect but then people did not hide behind computers if they had a problem, they said it to your face.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Richard Aslett, 30th December 2007
Jeff
I run an under 10's team and a few weeks ago one of my players won
the ball on the halfway line in a fair tackle. As the ref let the play go on their player started crying. By this time we were in the box lining up a shot. The ref then blew his whistle so treatment could be given to the crying player. I thought this was fair enough as they are only
9/10 years old.
Once treatment had been given the ref then took the ball back to
the halfway line and instructed to kick back to my keeper.
This pissed me
off as we were looking to equalise with a top team in the division and ended up
having to start all over again.
Cheers
Richie
Jeff's reply
First of all Richie, let me commend you on the time and effort you put
into running your kids team.
The ref did not have to stop the game when the
young player was either injured/upset but he did. Afterwards, he should have dropped the
ball where it was when he stopped play, i.e. in the penalty area.
Now he may
have been wrong in law and your youngsters missed the opportunity to score but my view is of the bigger picture.
I honestly believe that at this stage of these youngsters' careers, they
should be learning skills rather than playing in win at all costs matches. That is
why we are in the state internationally that we are currently in.
I often go to
presentations where youngsters receive trophies bigger than they are and see coaches
strutting around thinking they are Mourinhio because their side has won the
League.
To be competitive is important but to hone skills and confidence at that
age is, to me, more important.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Jarvis, 29th December 2007
There are lots of women refs coming through nowadays. What is your opinion on them?
Mine is that it is a load of bollocks! How are they supposed to ref when they haven't a clue what offside is? I tried teaching some lasses using condiments but it went over their heads. Do you have any tips on what I should use instead?
Women should also stop commentating. It is crinchworthy on MOTD now when the lass commentates.
By the way, I'm not sexist, I just like what I like.
Jeff's reply
Hi Jarvis
Are you sure that you are not sexist? Were you bullied by an older sister?
Did your mother leave you when you were a child? Are you still a virgin? Do
women find you unattractive?
Or perhaps you are just as you say - someone who just likes what he likes.
I personally don't have a problem with the sex, colour or creed of a
referee, as long as they are good enough. The women refs I know actually do
know the offside law and a lot better than most "male" fans.
Likewise with commentating. The lass on MOTD is actually better than some of the blokes.
So there are my opinions. No doubt you will totally disagree with them.
I also like what I like and I like women!
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Granty, 28th December 2007
Mr Winter
I would like to congratulate your good self for managing to make a living out of refereeing whilst being the most biased referee I ever ever had the mis-fortune to see. Did you crave the love of the top players? Did you want to be invited into the showers with them afterwards?
P.S. Did you personally mentor Mr Clattenburg as he seems to referee to the same shocking standards as you did.
Regards
Granty
Jeff's reply
Cheers Granty
I made a very good living as well mate. In fact it's surprising how well I have done out of
being so biased and crap. Result eh?!
I've got to be honest, when I reffed the Ladies matches I did crave for a few extra "bookings". I can't tell you my success rate though, because then I would have to kill you.
I am not responsible for Clatts but I hope that he did learn from me and continues to excel at the top of his profession.
Why don't you give it a go? It's good money and it can generate fame and fortune so you can have a lucrative career when you get too old to do it anymore. If you need any help, guidance or even
a manager, then give me a shout. I charge twenty percent commission.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Danny Gorman, 27th December 2007
Hi Jeff
My friends have rather comically noted that I bear a passing resembelance to you.
I was wondering if you have any advice on how I can market my good
looks. Do you have any beauty tips? I know you're fond of the old sunbed and I used to love
it when your golden tan graced Goodison.
Jeff's reply
Now then you very handsome man. My advice would be to protect what you've got mate. Don't
be afraid to use cosmetics and get a facial done once a month. Don't be hard - use moisturizers.
Be very careful with sun beds though. I don't personally use them much. Maybe the
odd time before going abroad, just to get the skin used to the heat.
If you want to get a tan like mine, then make some money and you too will get away for ten to twelve weeks per year. You will then get a tan like mine.
I am currently inundated with work, perhaps I could employ you as a body-double. I would pay you good rates. You could also benefit with the ladies as well.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Mary Poppins, 26th December 2007
Are your talks free?
Jeff's reply
Hi Mary
I do a lot of work for charity but surprisingly I do charge for my services. If your pub or hotel start giving the food and drink away for nothing then I might consider also doing likewise. In the meantime I will continue to provide a service at a competitive price.
Most events I speak at are fund raisers of one sort or another, so the organization does benefit.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: The Bucks Stops Here, 26th December 2007
Jeff
I'm sure you saw the incident at Chelsea last week when Liam Miller was
dismissed. I'm not condoning him raising his hands, but there are a
number of issues I'd like to raise concerning both this incident, and the general
refereeing of the "Big Four".
Miller's push into Pizzaro's face wouldn't have taken the top off a rice pudding to be honest. The previous week, I saw the England captain, John Terry, grab a player by the throat in front of the ref and NO SANCTION WAS GIVEN.
I don't suppose you, as a former top ref, could explain this to a mere fan like myself?
Isn't it about time that refs applied the letter of the law to all players?
Isn't it also about time that refs concentrated on applying red cards for incidents in which real injuries can be dealt to players?
There were two horrific lunges at Sunderland players during the Chelsea game the other week (one by Frank Lampard on Etuhu, and another stamp-down tackle on Stokes which could have broken his leg by an unidentified Chelsea thug). Neither even resulted in a free kick, never mind a booking.
Yet Miller pushes Pizzaro in the face (after receiving a sly knee in the thigh himself from the same player) and Peter Walton has his red card out like a shot. Not a punch, a push. I noticed that Peter Walton didn't "alert" the fourth official as to the situation, so he could deal with
the fallout either. Miller didn't barge someone over like another current England international did (and remind me, what sanction was taken against him?).
Could you please have a word with your former colleagues Jeff, and ask them if we can have a bit of consistency and for the laws to be applied to ALL players, irrespective of club or status.
Thanks for your time.
TBSH.
Jeff's reply
Firstly, I have to say that Miller's sending off was the correct decision. You do not have to spark someone out in order to be guilty of violent conduct. The fact that Miller did what he did warranted a red card.
Your second point though is very valid. It would seem that the likes of the England captain are getting away with murder at the moment. I cannot condone that or even attempt to give a satisfactory explanation for it.
The previous week, John Terry throttled an opponent and nothing was done. One half-attempt at an explanation might be to look back to last season when Graham Poll reported Terry and Chelsea to the FA and next to nothing was done about it. I was speaking to a very well-respected London
journalist last week and he stated that some at the FA would be delighted if Capello replaced Terry as captain.
That may well be warranted but does little to appease you or answer your query.
I try and defend referees when it is warranted but cannot and will not try and justify obvious and unexplainable errors. Sometimes the referee does not see things as clearly as we do, especially after many replays, but that is where the FA should come in and take retrospective action against those
who have committed offences not correctly identified on match days.
Many fans like to have a go at me and remind me of an individual incident that they perceive I got wrong during my career. I would imagine, however, that most would agree that I was never intimidated by anyone and was a strong referee. It made no difference to me who was playing. Unfortunately I now wonder at times if referees, lacking the support of their superiors and mindful of their careers, are a little cautious when dealing with the "Big Four". It pains me to say this, but I cannot disagree with some of your comments.
It does seem that if you upset the big clubs, your opportunities to officiate in the biggest games are impaired and perhaps that is why officials are not taking the appropriate action.
Best wishes
Jeff
The Bucks Stops Here responds
Hi Jeff
Thanks for your very full answer and comments.
I hear what you are saying about Liam Miller raising his hands, and I think it's well known that once you do that then you can have no complaints when you see red.
That said, it is surely the job of the ref to apply the LOAF to all players, irrespective of club, status, salary or ranking in the game.
Until this happens, refs will continue to lose credibility amongst fans and the perceived bias I am highlighting will continue until someone has the stones to sort this out.
It's perhaps unfair of me to highlight Peter Walton in this case but he's not alone. Of course refs are going to make mistakes like we all do in our working lives, and most of us do not have the scrutiny of endless replays when we have to make split second decisions.
But when you start paying blokes £60K a week, you have to expect them to get most decisions right.
Just for an insight: In a situation like the Miller/Terry/Pizzaro incident, when you were the ref, what were your thought processes? For example, would you consult your assistants to get a fuller perspective of the incident (which happened in the blink of an eye)? I'm just thinking, if I was going to show a red card I'd either want to make sure I was making the right decision and/or see if there was anything else in the incident I need to take action over.
The media are as much to blame. There was not even a mention of the Pizzaro sly knee on the TV or in the press. There was also no inquiry at the FA, despite there clearly being TV footage showing the sly dig.
And don't get me started on the Etuhu/Barton assault in the Wear/Tyne derby a few weeks ago!
Cheers again
TBSH
Jeff's reply
Hi Chris
Firstly I am sure it was a slip but referees get paid £60K per year not per week. Unfortunately!!
With regard to my thought process: If an incident happens and I believe I have seen it clearly then at this stage I know what action I am going to take. Firstly though, you have to be aware of possible player reaction. A quick red card can calm others down, as they see you have dealt with the incident. If there is an immediate reaction and players are confronting each other, then
you have to calm the situation at the same time as watching for any other action that might warrant disciplinary action.
At this stage, if players are in a confrontational mood then the assistants would join the incident and view and assist you.
When matters calm down, it is sensible to isolate the players you need to talk to. If there is any doubt in your mind as to what has happened at this stage, you would consult your assistants.
The most important fact is to stay calm and take your time, consult and take the appropriate action.
Match officials do get the vast majority of decisions right. The problem is that the media highlight specific incidents and then the referee's ability or performance are all assessed on those.
Obviously you are correct about fair application of the laws. The big clubs have so much power and influence now and the FA at times do not appear to have the balls or the inclination to upset them.
I speak from personal experience. When I finished refereeing, I was assessing and doing media work at the same time. One article I wrote about Fergie and Wenger saw the FA give me an ultimatum not to do media work without getting their prior approval and permission. I
walked away.
It is sad that the game is not properly governed and everybody isn't treat equally.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Mark C, 25th December 2007
Jeff
How do you think you (in your heyday) compare to the current crop of
Premiership referees?
What kind of impact do you think you had on modern refereeing?
Cheers
Mark
Jeff's reply
That is not really for me to say Mark. I think that in recent years a
large number of very experienced referees have retired and the current crop
will take time to get the experience and confidence that we had.
Referees are never going to be popular, it's the nature of the beast,
but within the game the better ones do get respect - even me!
I would like to think that the majority of people would think I was a
strong and fair referee who tried to let the game flow and refereed with a smile.
Many fans remember isolated incidents or decisions and make their judgment on those.
The simple fact with refereeing, like most things in life, is that you are
appreciated more after you have finished. Life goes on and I don't believe in
looking back. I thoroughly enjoyed my career and hope that the new generation
of officials enjoy it as much as I did. I just wish they would look as if they
are enjoying it and chill out a little bit more.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Trev Sharples, 24th December 2007
Dear Jeff
What do you think about refs booking players for "over-celebrating", i.e. taking their shirts off etc.
Surely some refs are taking some enjoyment out of the game. When Stokes scored Sunderland's winner against Derby, he got booked
for over-celebrating even though it was the fans who were running on the pitch!
Keep up the good work Jeff!
Jeff's reply
I think that it is a stupid law. Firstly, though, let me explain why the
authorities have this rule.
Obviously there is a time wasting element to excessive celebrations and
sometimes there is a safety issue when players run towards the crowd, possibly
causing a crush as fans run from their seats to join them. If celebration
happens in front of opposing fans it can lead to problems also.
The shirt off scenario is a problem in the football world because of
religious beliefs from some countries that are part of FIFA.
Personally, I think that the scoring of a goal is the most important part of
the game and as long as players stay on the pitch then natural shows of
emotion should be encouraged and not deterred.
I always dreaded that one day I would have to give a second yellow for
a goal scorer and then send him off. Thank God, I did not have to do it.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Keith, 24th December 2007
Hi Jeff
What are your views on Mr Bennett's display in the Sunderland v Aston Villa match? There was a high tackle on Dwight Yorke and a disallowed goal in that game. In my view, both were bad decisions on behalf of Mr Bennett.
Jeff's reply
I agree with you on one of them Keith.
The tackle was yet another dangerously high lunge that the referee missed. Whilst not one of the popular-at-the-moment flying lunges, it was still a challenge worthy of a red card nonetheless.
With regard to the disallowed goal, I could see why he chalked it out. Your player led with his arm, which did come across the keeper and made contact with him before he headed the ball. Ironically, had he not done this, I still think he would have scored.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Mark Fawcett, 23rd December 2007
Darlo fan here. I must say Jeff (you Smoggie), that I was not one of your favourite
fans but have recently warmed to you because of your support of Darlo. I
even try to listen to tfm when I can (keep up the good work).
Actually I don't mind Boro and regularly spoke to David Wheater (top bloke and an excellent
footballer) after his games for Darlo.
What I said after the Chester
postponement though was: why were the covers only put on the pitch after
it was frost bound (on the Thursday) and not earlier on in the week?
Anyway although
frustrated with the late postponement, as a true fan I still went to the
carvery (with family who had travelled from Coventry for this match).
Jeff's reply
If only there were more like you Mark. Let's hope the "fans" come out
in their numbers this week. Might encourage the Chairman to hang around
and continue to invest in the club.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Paul Riddell, 23rd December 2007
Hi Jeff
I'm a Sunderland fan, not that that's particularly relevant but you may
hate me for it!
My question is in response to Graham Poll's book in which he states that some referees play a very safe game to ensure that they are retained on the Premier League ref's list. I watched Arsenal v Sunderland where it seemed Mr Styles (who in my opinion is a
very good ref) booked most tackles involving Sunderland players and left
alone the Arsenal players for similar offences.
I have a couple of
questions:
1) Do you think Mr Poll is correct?
2) If this IS the case, surely the
guilty party is not the refs who are surely doing this to protect
their livelihood as Premier League ref salaries are far far better than fees
received in the Football League, but the FA, who should put in place
better salary structures. After all if it was my job at stake, I would do as
the refs say.
Finally, what was your opinion on Joey Barton's tackle on Etuhu of
Sunderland and consequently the failure of the FA to do anything about
it retrospectively?
Many Thanks for your time, please don't hold the Sunderland fan thing
against me
Cheers
Paul
Jeff's reply
Hi Paul
Why on earth would I have a problem in you supporting Sunderland? I
have total respect for any devoted fan who stays loyal to their side.
I know exactly what Poll was saying.
You are correct, in my opinion,
that the Authorities have a lot to answer for. They fail to support their
officials and are scared of the big clubs.
Referees who now have refereeing as their full time job are on a one
year contract, with no pension etc. They are at the whims of the top
clubs and upsetting one of the Big Four could jeopardize not only their ability
to referee the big games but even cost them their jobs, e.g. Messias and
D'urso.
Barton's tackle was one of many we have seen recently that have to be outlawed
from the game.
The ref cannot and does not see everything. What should
happen is that every Monday a penal should sit, I am quite happy to
offer my services to be on it, and incidents such as diving, two footed tackles and
any ot be issued.
We may see more suspensions, but prevention is better than cure, so this
action and the knowledge that your sins will come out may deter misconduct in the future.
It is so simple but it won't happen. Why? Because the
big clubs would realize that they are likely to lose more players. God
knows, even the captain of England may start to act appropriately if it did happen.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Denise, 22nd December 2007
Hi Jeff
There have been some good results for Boro of late and with a bit of luck, they are turning their game around. I hope the so-called fans will leave Gareth alone now, he does not deserve it.
Players get paid win or lose. This is half the problem today.
I am a
Magpie but love to see all the north-east teams do well, even Sunderland!!
Jeff's reply
I think most people know that I agree with your sentiments. I would love all five north-eastern teams to do well as long as Boro come out on top.
Too many fans are unrealistic and expect instant success. Rome was not built in a day and fans should realize that.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Steve in Catterick, 22nd December 2007
I'm writing about this new England manager malarchy. Just how much have the FA been conned for paying for Fabio and his "all" Italian back room staff?
Also, IF (and it's a big IF) he manages to get our non-performers to win something, what are the headlines going to be? "England's Italian Job" and how the Italians rescued English international football?
It is, quite frankly, a joke.
Jeff's reply
I agree mate, it just shows what a sad state we are in. Southgate for England!! Two wins on the bounce must have him as favourite now.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Jonathan, 22nd December 2007
Hi Jeff
I think Pools are a mid-table team this season and nothing else.
We're not going up this season and we're too good to down. We can write
off this season but I do wish we could go up.
Pools have a lot of work to
be done this season in order for them to find their feet. They need to get new players and get rid
of some of the dead wood.
All I'm looking forward to next season is the
Darlo game.
P.S. I do feel sorry for the Darlo fans who travelled to the west to only see twenty-two minutes the other week.
Jeff's reply
Consolidation is not a word that the players and management at Pools
believe in I can tell you.
Whilst I probably think that you are right, they will not give up. And as we know, a good run of results would mean that the play-offs could become a reality.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Paddy O, 21st December 2007
Dear Jeff
On our footy message board, we reckon that most refs have never played footy after the age of twelve, when they couldn't get on the school team and forever held a grudge afterwards.
Did you play football to a decent standard? Or did you realise that you weren't up to scratch but wished to stay in the game, making reffing the natural path?
P.S. I've been sent off by Rob Styles in his junior reffing days. He couldn't play footy to save his life.
Jeff's reply
You could also level that query at the vast majority of football fans, who
therefore have a lot less understanding of football than those who are
actually involved in the game.
I played football until my early twenties, although admittedly I was not good
enough to play at a senior level. When I took up refereeing and made
progress, it was obvious that I stood a better chance as a ref than I
ever would have done as a player.
After training we used to have a kick around and Rob Styles was not the
best. Some lads, however, were half decent.
So the argument that refs are frustrated players might be half true, but at
the highest level of the game they have an understanding and experience
that the average fan educated by the comments of the "media experts" would
not begin to comprehend.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Lucky, 21st December 2007
Hi Jeff
When I've seen you on the pitch limbering up in your carefully
orchestrated warm-up before the match, you always look big and hard.
Is this the result of admiring yourself in the changing room mirrors?
Jeff's reply
You don't look big and hard by looking in a mirror you doyle.
That comes from being what you are and eating little boys who send silly messages by email.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Denise, 20th December 2007
Another great result for Boro on Saturday, thanks to Tuncay.
You said on the show on Saturday that the e-mails had dried up from all the so-called fans who have no faith in their club or its manager. Hopefully they will start giving proper support to the club now.
Us Maggies got a result too. I wonder if Tuncay would like to join us - he is playing great at the minute.
Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year to you and all the Soccer Saturday team.
Jeff's reply
Keep your hands off our Turk! Ironically though, if he continues to
play like he is at the moment, he will undoubtedly attract the attention of
other clubs.
Boro have thousands of loyal supporters who backed the side
through its barren spell - it's just the ones who whinge make the most noise.
As a Newcastle supporter you must realize that. Recent scenes against the Manager
after a few poor results show that every club has its share of fans that
have no patience. Having said that, some learned Geordies are not happy
at Sam's style of football.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Liam Green, 20th December 2007
Jeff
Do you miss Premiership refereeing?
It seems to me that refs don't have any character any more - apart from luminaries such as Uriah, who seem to get knocked back every other game.
Do you ref and shout from your armchair and that?
Respect.
Jeff's reply
I miss the games, the training and the involvement. However, when I retired I vowed to move on and I have done that.
There are certainly some strong personalities still out there in
refereeing, although too many are just watching their back and trying to keep
everybody happy. That is a futile role in my opinion - they should just do the job and let their careers be built on what they do on the pitch.
I still look at everything in a game from a referee's perspective. Twenty-five years can be forgotten.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: AG, 19th December 2007
Hi Jeff
Did you used to watch that Fun House?
Pat Sharpe was well good and when those twins wore skirts, I got right
excited!
I think you should be the man to bring it back. Do you agree?
Jeff's reply
I am afraid not, although depending on who the skirt wearing twins are I
might be interested.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Chris, 19th December 2007
Have you ever been verbally abused so much you have shat your kegs?
Jeff's reply
Funnily enough no. I have, however, followed through on a few occasions
down the years. Haven't we all?
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From: SMB Day Dream, 18th December 2007
Hello to you Jeff.
I was just wandering if you could explain this
comment from your autobiography:
"In the end I played a little bit extra, waiting until play was at the Kop
End before sounding the final shrill blast - a bit like the Last Post. The
fans behind the goal burst into spontaneous applause. It was longer and
louder than normal, even for a big home win. Did they know it was my
final visit? Was the applause for me? They are such knowledgeable football
people, that it would not surprise me."
Do you real believe this? If so, you may wish to reconsider the level of
concern football fans have for referees and their careers.
Jeff's reply
I have explained this many times SMB. It was meant as a tongue in cheek
comment. My attempt at sarcasm, however, has been used as a stick to beat
me with by some who really thought I meant it.
If you read the whole book you might see that to make a comment like
that was not really my style.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Cliff Marsden, 17th December 2007
Hi Jeff,
Amazing result against Arsenal and great to see it continue against Derby!
I am hoping you can settle something for me. I was lead to believe that when taking a penalty once the taker started his run up he was not allowed to stop and then start again as Ronaldo does at Man U. If this the case why aren't refs stopping it?
Jeff's reply
Sorry Cliff you are wrong. A player may stagger his movement towards the ball in the run up, but his final movement must be to kick the ball and not feign to make the keeper move then kick it. If he did that an offence has been committed and an indirect free kick would be awarded to the defence.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Dave Hutchinson, 17th December 2007
Word got around Darlo fans in the York that a further pitch inspection was being carried out at 1430 due to continued worsening of the weather.
Fans were allowed in, Congregation of Darlo fans behind the goal bayed the ref to let the game go ahead.
The Ref looked Darlo fans straight in the eyes.
It was clear he could see a wasted journey and maybe potential problem IF he called it off while fans were arriving.
He, the ref, made a COMMENDABLE decision to give the game a go and the journey not a total waste.
It may be appropriate for some one to dredge the rule book pertaining to the situation regarding refunds to fans once admission has been permitted as against the game started.
I believe The referee has acted in best interests of the DFC fans and supporters of Morecambe FC.
Nice to see all refs are not barsteeeds. TOP MAN.
Also let us mention the near 1000 who travelled to the game.
754 behind the goal 200+ in the seats and well the 20 odd who went in Morcambe end because it was a quid cheaper.
Interesting stat Jeff which you can use on the show travelling support is usually between 5% and 10% of home gate depending on result.
Given the fact The game which you feature is Chester City and its only 10 quid entry for a Top of the table clash between two clubs chasing promotion.
It will be will it not be interesting to see size of the gate.
Please though will you kindly get club to provide the number of the bus to the stadium; Where it picks up from and what time it begins and finishes.
This is the Best Darlington Team in decades question has to be DARLINGTON WHERE ARE YOU.
Jeff's reply
Great to see that you realize finally that referees are indeed kind, caring and considerate individuals!!!
The away support is fantastic and the club really do appreciate it.
I have forwarded your query regarding buses to JS, I am sure that he will answer your query. I am quite happy to publicise this service on the radio.
With regard to the attendances, as you are aware I am at a loss what more the club should do and after the Chester game would suggest that they do nothing else this season regarding incentives.
If the people will not go and watch as you say " The Best Darlington team in decades" then it is their loss.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: David Howard, 17th December 2007
Abandoned Game: Does White's yellow card still count given that the game was abandoned?
If a player was suspended for that game at Morecambe, would the game have counted as far as him serving his suspension?
What about Managers who are banned from the touchline, and the game is then abandoned?
Regards,
David Howard
Jeff's reply
Unfortunately White's yellow card does still count. The game would not have counted as him serving a suspension. Also it is the game with a manager.
It does seem strange that everything else, goals scorers, score at abandonment etc are all expunged from the record books, but disciplinary action taken still counts.
That's the crazy world of FA rules I am afraid.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: John Harrison, 16th December 2007
Hi Jeff,
I don't believe Darlington wanted to play, it was much colder in Hartlepool but their match went ahead.
Jeff's reply
John,
I can assure you that the club did everything possible to get the game on. Hartlepool's ground is close to the sea and the salt air always helps pitches where frost is concerned.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Chris Harrington, 16th December 2007
Darlington fans are not happy. I was in town for the game. Its a sham.
Darlington are bang out of order calling a game off at 12:00pm on matchday. They dont deserve supporters. Chris
Jeff's reply
I am at a loss to understand your comments Chris. Firstly Darlington did not call the game off, the referee did. The club did everything they could including the groundsman working through the night to do everything possible to get the game on.
Darlington football club cannot be blamed for the weather surely?
The last thing the club want is a backlog of fixtures then they have to play catch up. Also from a financial point of view postponed home games mean a lack of revenue indeed possibly a loss of revenue. Thankfully the good sense and planning of the clubs CE saved the club as he had the foresight to arrange an insurance policy against late postponements so that the club did not suffer financially.
It was a major inconvenience for all concerned non more than the players who now go into the very busy Christmas schedule with no match play for three weeks. Not ideal.
I am sure that others out there will use this as yet another stick to beta the club you are supposed to support with. Some really do not deserve the club that you have got!!
At least you could get your Christmas shopping done!!!
Darlington are a football club not GOD.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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Chris Liddle, 16th December 2007
I don't want to labour the point about refs and red cards but last
week I wrote to you to say that it was about time that refs took proper action
over tackles that could seriously injure players.
Last week we saw Liam Miller (admittedly correctly) sent off for
raising his hands at Chelsea and PUSHING someone after being kneed in the thigh.
This week, Steve Bennett only saw fit to award a yellow card for a
horrendous stomach high flying karate kick by Craig Gardner of Villa on Dwight Yorke.
How can referees expect to have any respect or credibility amongst fans
when they fail to correctly punish reckless assaults on players? Isn't it
about time that proper sanctions are applied to referees who fail to take
proper action in these situations? There is absolutely NO DOUBT that the
tackle on Yorke by Gardner was serious foul play.
Sunderland have lost a player for three games for pushing someone in the
face after being kneed in the thigh, whilst Villa will not lose Gardner for
any length of time after a tackle, which had it had been done on a high
street, would have been subject to a charge of assault.
It's disgraceful and unfair, and Bennett should be sanctioned by his
employers. If he can't see such an obvious case of serious foul play, he shouldn't be refereeing at this or any other level.
Best regards
Chris
Jeff's reply
What can I say Chris, just because I was a ref I am not responsible for every decision they make.
It was a horrible challenge and should have been given a red card. I can only assume that Steve Bennett, who is one of the countries top officials and one who usually does not shirk a red card, did not see it as clearly as we did. It's dead easy on MOTD, with slow motion and replays.
You think that the ref should be sanctioned by his employers for this error. Thank god that does not apply in the workplace because we would all being taking home less wages each week.
A referee makes a couple of errors a game and is castigated. Think how many times players get it wrong, scores of times a game, yet we don't call for them to be sacked do we?
The answer to me is quite simple. On a Monday morning, a panel should review the incidents and take the necessary disciplinary action, i.e. Gardner should get a three match ban. It does not help Sunderland on Saturday but with the likelihood of more suspensions then perhaps the players will think twice in the future.
Best Wishes
Jeff
Chris replies
Hi Jeff
Thanks for your reply.
Of course, you can't be held accountable for Steve Bennett's or any other refereeing decisions.
I think the average footy fan accepts, like all of us, refs are going to make incorrect decisions during a game. It's easy to miss a clip off an ankle and give a goal kick instead of a corner, or an assistant giving a throw in the wrong way. I'm not advocating sanctions against refs for decisions like that. That would be totally unfair.
However, what the average fan does expect is that refs get the BIG decisions correct. That is penalties, disciplinary sanctions, and ensuring the correct decisions are made in scoring situations.
There were two BIG decisions in that match yesterday. The Gardner foul on Yorke, and the disallowed Collins goal.
Like you say, Steve Bennett gets one look at these decisions unlike the pundits and the fans who can trawl over endless replays, so you have to have sympathy with him and other refs. I can even have a degree of sympathy with him for disallowing the Collins goal, even though I think he was wrong.
But you can't tell me that if he saw the Gardner foul on Yorke, he couldn't believe it was anything other than serious foul play which is sanctionable with a red card?
My personal opinion is that, to improve accountability amongst referees, they should be wheeled in front off the press/TV/media and explain these key decisions and the reasoning for them. If they HAVE made a mistake, then they can explain why, or what their reasoning behind the decision was.
Now it may be that Steve Bennett didn't get a clear view of the incident. In that case, why did he award a yellow card, and why did he not consult his assistants? And if he didn't see it properly, he could have gone on TV and explained that, instead of leaving 40000 Mackems and several Irishman, very irate!
Cheers again
Jeff's reply
I agree with you, refs going on TV should be encouraged as it might help people understand more. I doubt it though as people being fans will only see what they want to see and believe what they want to. The FA would never allow it though.
For what it's worth I thought the goal should have been disallowed. It was a foul by Collins. The daft thing is if he hadn't led with his arm and impeded the
keeper he would probably still have scored anyway.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Simon Porch, 15th December 2007
I was interested to read your article about Lee Probert when he refereed Bolton v Middlesbrough.
I know that this was a big game but if you have new referees then surely you have to give them a chance in testing games otherwise they'll never succeed at the top level. Let's face it, you wouldn't have done as well as you did if you weren't given a chance in a testing game early in your career when fans would have questioned your ability to ref that game.
What makes you think that Probert can't ever cut it at the top level? Surely he can take stock and learn from his mistakes!
What do you think of the Select Group concept and do you think it's working in the long term?
My theory is that it's not, as many refs have retired like yourself, Elleray, Barber and Poll. Apart from Atkinson, Clattenburg and Webb, none of the new SG refs have established themselves at the top.
As a result, the overall quality of refs at SG level is far weaker now than in it was in 2001.
I'd love to know your thoughts on this issue.
Jeff's reply
You make some sensible points Simon. Obviously you have to be tested and hopefully learn from your mistakes. I hope that this particular referee does have a long and successful career and prove me wrong. However, my view is that it was not so much that he had an off day but that he was completely out of his depth.
You have made good points that many experienced SG referees have retired in the past six to seven years and only the three you mention have successfully bridged the gap. That is why we are unable to take up our entitlement to a full quota of FIFA referees. A few have been tried at Premiership level and have just not come up to scratch.
There was a lack of forward planning and it will take some time before newer refs get the experience and confidence to operate regularly at Premiership level.
On a bright note, I regularly see some excellent young refs in the Football League and hopefully, if they are not rushed through by necessity, they will mature and the overall standard will rise.
Unfortunately in refereeing, like life in general, it's sometimes a case of "Who you know". Some refs who could have made it to the top simply have not been given a chance.
Like at a football club, if things are not working it is usually the management that gets the chop and the players come good under a different coach. That could well be the problem with refereeing.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: toosb, 15th December 2007
Hi Jeff
In reference to the 1999 Manchester United match, the ball wasn't on the half-way line at all. It was a fair way inside our half.
Your decision was wrong, the Man Utd player (Solksjaer?) went down in stages. He conned you.
Late in the game, these decisions are crucial. It enabled them to load the box from a set-piece and sometimes there is little you can do. That was the case this time as it was a deflected shot that went in.
The fact that it was eight years ago is neither here nor there. We still talk about 1966.
You got it wrong. And you know, if you'd just say that I would admire you for it.
By the way, why don't you come on to this site? I'm sure you'd attract plenty of interest. It's a Sunderland message board.
Jeff's reply
I am sorry, you seem to remember more about the incident of eight years ago than I do.
I do not recall the exact incident in as much detail as you but I do recall that it was just inside one half of the field. If I thought I had got it wrong then I would be happy to admit it.
Enjoy your football and let's hope that both Sunderland and Boro manage to stay up.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Peter Owen, 14th December 2007
Hi Jeff
If Steve Gibson had followed all the shouts to sack Gareth, then the performance against Arsenal would have also gone down the drain.
Those who doubt are fools because it is just as likely that Arsenal may now lose a few games on the trot, now their wheels have come off.
I back my own judgement regardless of anything and I'm sticking 100% behind what I have always said about Gareth Southgate.
Jeff's reply
My sentiments exactly. I have and will continue to back Gareth.
It is funny how those who have continuously criticized Gareth, his signings and his tactics have suddenly gone quiet this week.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Steve Kingston, 14th December 2007
Jeff
In your column you asked who could replace Southgate.
Like you, I'm not one for knee-jerk reactions and I applaud Gibson for his philosophy of supporting his managers but I am very concerned over the lack of experience in Boro's coaching staff.
Southgate was dropped in it and I think his lack of experience may be showing. He is unproven and just because he was a great player it doesn't make him a great manager or coach.
Someone who HAS proven himself as a manager or coach, who was a great player and who also played for Boro is Paul Ince!
I can't see Gibson sacking Southgate but if he did, Incey would be a good replacement!
Steve
Jeff's reply
Incy is a good mate of mine and he looks like being a good manager.
But hang on a minute, he has had eight months at Macclesfield and five months at MK Dons. He is hardly proven and experienced at Premiership level, is he?
In fact he is still a rookie boss, just like Gareth.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Richard Parsons, 13th December 2007
Hiya Jeff
Tuncay was class. He was like Adam Boyd with pace lol!
Boro played like they were top of the table but the real test is on Saturday at Derby.
That's the very best I've ever seen them play. They never played anything like that when Mac was manager.
The one gripe I have is with Arsenal's goal. It should never have been allowed as time was up. And it was a good goal too.
Big shout out for the ref, who let play flow for both teams. That probably played a massive part in how the Boro beat them.
On a more personal note, my dad went and he's a Poolie through and through. He loved it too!
If Pools can win their home games we'll be safe as houses but I'm kissing goodbye to the play-offs already unless we buy real quality in January.
This is particularly true of the goalkeepers because the two we have got are crap. They let too many goals in and
can't keep clean sheets. No wonder Donny got rid of Jan the man so easily.
One or two of the old guard need ditchin too because their good days for Pools are well and truly behind them.
Ritchie
Jeff's reply
I can't disagree with you on the Boro.
There is one point though regarding the Arsenal goal. The fans booed when the announcement was a goal in the ninety-fifth minute after the ref had stated that there would be four minutes added on.
It just highlights my point that some fans just don't understand the laws.
The time that the fourth official shows at ninety minutes is an indication of the MINIMUM amount of time to be added.
So if he has decided on four and a half minutes then whilst four will be shown and not five, he will play four and a half. This means that a goal scored will actually be in the ninety-fifth minute because the ninety-fifth minute lasts from 94.01 up to 94.59.
Also during the additional four minutes the ref can make further allowances for any time lost, substitutions, cautions, time wasting etc. etc.
When will you learn?
I cannot believe you are knocking Budtz!
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Annie, 13th December 2007
Jeff
Does your radio show always have to be so plastic? You are always saying the right things and never a wrong word about Boro, Pools or Darlo.
I'm a big Jeff Winter fan but give it real sometimes or fans will switch off.
Annie
Jeff's reply
I tell it the way it is, like it or lump it. I just get sick of people who live to knock and criticise. Many like to moan but have no sensible alternative suggestions.
Also for the benefit of good debate it would be useless just to agree with everybody.
It seems that the only way to be popular with some is to knock establishment. So if I start slagging Gareth, Danny Wilson or even Dave Penney then all of a sudden I will be okay.
Don't hold your breath!!!
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Chris, 12th December 2007
Hi Jeff
Gareth Southgate has admitted to the previously poor scouting at MFC. It's about time some would say.
Will young Cattermole be disciplined after being arrested for drunkenness the other week?
Chris
Jeff's reply
Again Chris, another hyped over-reaction. He was not arrested at all.
Had he not been a footballer, we would never have heard about this at all.
Okay, it was not wise behaviour but he was with a group of mates and it's hardly the crime of the century! It was also a Saturday night after the game, not the night before!!!
It looks like Catts will become the whipping boy once the idiots have chased Downing away from the area.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Annie, 12th December 2007
Hi Jeff
Is there any chance of any truth instead of spin this week? Boro are in turmoil with the fans in uproar yet you don't reflect the true fans' feelings.
Annie
Jeff's reply
I'm sorry if I personally have confidence in Gareth Southgate. I know that one swallow does not make a summer but after Sunday some of the knockers might be re-thinking.
If the way to make myself popular is to try and please people then it looks like I will be unpopular for a very long time.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Terry Bonner, 11th December 2007
Keep talking Jeff, I enjoy reading your opinions. I might not agree with them all but they are your opinions after all and I am sure you would not agree with all of mine.
I am proud that Middlesbrough can produce a top referee and with all the so-called TV-ex-footballer-experts producing know-it-all comments and opinions across various channels, it is good to have somebody from the middle giving their view.
Top work
Regards
Terry
Jeff's reply:
Thanks Terry
It is virtually a closed shop with the national media. They use ex-players all the time and quite often it is infuriating to hear the same old clichés.
Also, many of their comments are factually incorrect. They are misleading the fans and creating hysteria.
The big problem is that the parents who listen to them on MOTD and the like then take their "learned views" to their kids' matches the following day and berate young refs who are just learning their trade.
I agree that everybody is entitled to an opinion but usually fans are not interested unless decisions are in favour of their sides. It is good to be offered an opportunity to put a different point of view.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Mark Anderson, 10th December 2007
Dear Jeff
I am writing regarding your comment a few weeks ago about attending Boro's game on Saturday instead of Darlo's.
A group of eight of us (some regular and some potential Quakers' fans) travelled on the train to see Rangers v Kilmarnock last Saturday.
Whilst on the train we got talking to a much larger group of self-proclaimed Boro fans, also travelling up to the same game.
It cost most of us £35 train fare, £25 ticket and £60 on beer and food. All of us seemed fed up on a day both our natural teams were at home.
It's perhaps easy to understand for Boro but after following Darlo since 1973, I simply can not stomach the new empty quiet ground.
What do you think can tempt people back to the grounds as obviously results are not the problem?
Regards
Mark
Jeff's reply
I bet you loved the whole match day experience at Biro. Yes it's an all seater ground but that doesn't stop the crowd singing and producing a cracking atmosphere. I bet you left feeling you had enjoyed a great day out, just like it used to be at Ayresome and Feethams.
Obviously The Arena will never be like that, it is just far too big for the town and the support. A purpose built ground like Scunthorpe or Wycombe would have been ideal for Darlo. Even if it was only half full, there would still be more atmosphere.
The big problem now is the sanitised grounds with stewards barking out orders like we are all school kids. Standing areas would help and having more songs and people who are prepared to sing them would also change things.
It can work. Take Ibrox as an example - everybody joins in. Even in England, at grounds like Anfield there is still the culture where the fans can enjoy themselves.
At Boro if someone in the main stand tries to start a chant everyone looks at him in an embarrassed manner as if he is mad.
I don't know why away fans are always more up for a song than home fans. When all is said and done, they are the same people.
Unfortunately, I don't think we will get that atmosphere back other than for the big cup ties or the derby matches.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Ayersy, 9th December 2007
Hi Jeff
Great article about the Boro.
Even though I'm one of the guys who has never played or refereed football to any significant level, I certainly agree with your conclusions.
We're having a frustrating season with the Boro so far but any change to the manager (or even chairman) at this stage is most likely to be a terrible mistake.
Southgate was a terrific player and leader and we've actually got the makings of a very good team.
Four players are in the England U21 squad (until Taylor was injured), we have a Galactico in defence along with Luke Young, and we have Downing and Johnson on the wings. Arca is a very good playmaker and Cattermole has enormous potential.
I was at Upton Park when Aliadiere got injured. Suddenly we'd lost Mido, Tuncay and Aliadiere - three very good strikers all injured at once.
Who knows, with players coming back and a couple of goals to get our confidence back we could move on...
Cheers - keep writing
Ayersy
Jeff's reply
At last - someone looking at the bigger picture! The trouble is we live in a world where results talk and if we are still in a mess after Christmas then unfortunately heads might roll. Let's see.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Paul Nicholson, 9th December 2007
Hi Jeff
I will never waste my money on rubbish teams again. I am glad I didn't travel away to watch them last weekend as I usually do.
Gareth's a fantastic guy but he's not a manager and to call him such means Boro could be done under the Trade Descriptions Act.
In future I will save money and watch good football at either Synthonia or Marske.
Bye
Paul
Jeff's reply
I bet that you will, everyone says that. You will return, it's in our blood.
I feel for Gareth. He is genuine, honest and given enough time he may succeed. He is on a hiding to nothing at the moment though. He certainly has not had the luck that McClaren had.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Richy Parsons, 8th December 2007
Hiya Jeff
You reckon Jermaine Beckford isn't Premiership standard but he's the top scorer
in the country at the moment.
And if he isn't, are you telling me that Ben Hutchinson is?
A quick look on Soccerbase says Cameron Jerome is a released Boro trainee. It looks like your coaching staff got that one right, eh?
Danny got it spot-on on Tuesday. I wasn't there but I saw it on the
download. It's just like the stuff we were playing when Boydy and Porter
took us to Cardiff.
I'm not having a go but just pointing out that one minute you are saying that big clubs
don't give local young talent a chance then you are saying that players in League One aren't good enough anyway.
Believe me mate, Beckford is playing in the wrong league because unlike the
rest of the league planks, that lad has pace to keep up with Henry,
Torres etc.
Boro should put a bid in for him before he takes Leeds back to the big league and becomes a household name.
P.S I'm going tomorrow, with our kid and our dad. And I hope Boro do the business.
P.P.S. Keep your hands of Browny because we need him and we are going to have our
work cut out keeping him. Stepho will probably want him for Norwich - he
is Stepho's player after all.
C'mon Boro (and c'mon Pools because we are getting beat as I type this, after
our own chancer Mackay has scored a well taken one).
Jeff's reply (written post-Arsenal)
Who needs a striker!
Super Boro. You might be right but it is difficult to gaurantee that a
player who scores in the lower divisions will do it in the Premiership.
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From: Paul, 8th December 2007
Alright mate
I see that Catt has gone mental on the booze and been barred out of four pubs in Stockton last week, giving it large with abuse.
What's all that about?
Jeff's reply
If it had been you then we would not have heard about it would we?
For God's sake it was a Saturday night after a game! We've all done it, had a few with our mates and gone a bit lairy.
Yes he should known better but let's draw the line. It seems that any excuse to have a go at the players and the club is jumped on at the moment. I bet if he scores a hat trick against Arsenal and gets pissed on Sunday night, someone will still complain.
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From: Chris Harrington, 8th December 2007
Hi Jeff
I hear that Gareth Southgate and his staff have lost the dressing room. The players think he has no clue.
Chris
Jeff's reply
From where do you get your info mate? It did not look like that at Reading - didn't you see the reaction to the goal?
I just wish people would lay off knocking and start supporting.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Jaye, 8th December 2007
Hello Jeff
As I told you last week I have been a season ticket holder since the Chicken Run in Ayresome Street and I used to go to every match home and away.
Today is the first time I have ever missed and I am not sorry.
I wish I could still be as dedicated as you. In fact I wish half the players were.
They did try last Saturday but most of them aren't good enough. I've been going since 1968 and have all heart.
Keep up the good work Jeff.
Jaye
Jeff's reply
I think deep in our hearts we are all still Boro fans. The problem is that the Premiership is now about the big boys with money.
Since we have had our our recent flirtation with success some expect it all the time. It just ain't going to happpen.
I was pleased with the effort against Reading but we desperately need a goalscorer. It should have been three points at Reading and if we lose on Sunday we could become detached in the bottom three.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Adam Lawler, 7th December 2007
Hi Jeff
I was just wondering what you thought of the ridiculous decision to send Robbie Keane off against Birmingham on Sunday?
Also how do you think Martin O'Neill's Aston Villa will fair this season?
Thanks for your time.
Adam.
Jeff's reply
I will take the second point first as it is less likely to upset you.
I think Martin has got a good balance of young and experienced players and he looks like he is building a team that is very capable of challenging for a UEFA Cup spot.
As you will have seen, the FA have not rescinded the red card shown to Robbie Keane. This shows that they believe the decision was correct.
It was not a good challenge, although it was by no means as bad as those we have seen recently from the likes of Diouf and Hunt.
The two footed over the top tackle has to be outlawed and unfortunately there might be some casualties along the way.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Cliff Marsden, 7th December 2007
Is our currenty plight just a big dip in form or is our club going to end up like Charlton did and West Ham almost did last season? By this I mean having decent talent but no cohesion, no/very little passion (the likes of Downing, Woodgate, Wheater etc excepted), and the lack of desire to work for each other?
People keep harping on about supporting the team but until the team show us they want to play for our club, wear our shirt and improve their own fortunes, then why should we?
Kind regards
Cliff Marsden
Jeff's reply
It's catch 22 here Cliff. As well as being about ability and passion, football is mostly about confidence. Heads are going down not because of a lack of passion but because of a lack of confidence. When they concede, it's almost a "here we go again" situation and once the crowd are on their backs, it is difficult for them to lift themselves.
With no one up front who can hold the ball up? It keeps coming back and that is draining on the team.
If, and I mean if, we get Mido back and once Arca is back in midfield creating things, I am confident we can get the results. The bottom half of the League is poor and we are capable of finishing out of the bottom three.
I am concerned by Gareth's admissions that he is unlikely to have much money to spend in January. He may be forced to sell to get enough to buy a striker or two. The problem is who is going to want to join a relegation struggle?
Best wishes
Jeff
Cliff responds
They are fair points you make about confidence. You mention about having to sell to raise cash but in an already small squad who does Southgate sell? Also, who would be interested in players who are so plainly struggling from game to game?
Jeff responds
The one obvious saleable asset is Stewie Downing. I would not be surprised if he is now ready to move on. I know he is saddened by the criticism of his own supporters and also disillusioned by dropping down the England pecking order.
Let's hope we get some long overdue good luck.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Fletch, 6th December 2007
MFC made a very low key statement that the Gook can leave in January.
Is anyone going to be held responsible for signing a turkey and wasting thousands in signing on fees, travel and wages? He was even allowed free trips!
Something is badly wrong at MFC!
Jeff's reply
I find it odd that the club would say that and then pick him to play in a vital game two days later.
He obviously has not worked out but he could have done. That's the chance you take sometimes.
It's funny how players, especially foreigners, don't work out but then return home and become massive hits. Moreno never worked at Boro but has scored goals throughout his career in the States. Sometimes it takes more time for these guys to settle. Remember Juninho?
I think every club has similar tales so don't necessarily have a go at the Boro over this one. We cannot afford or attract current world class superstars and look what happened when the likes of Ravanelli and Boksic came?
I just wish the club and media would not hype them up so much, it usually just sets them up to fail.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Gordon Wilson, 5th December 2007
I totally agree with Tom (see letter of 3rd December). I have just moved from Reading to Aberdeen but I will try my hardest to get to as many matches as I can.
With the way Darlo are playing, why pay the prices to watch Newcastle or Boro play average football?
Be proud of your local team and come and watch Darlo in their promotion year.
Jeff's reply
That is brilliant Gordon, if only more people in the town and surrounding area had your attitude.
I think a lot of people are getting sick of the Premiership.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Darlospike, 4th December 2007
Now then Jeff
Look Jeff, I don't want to brown nose here but I just want to say your weekly column on Rivals is first class.
You are the best ambassador the club has had in a long long long time. You are sometimes negative but that's fair enough (as some things do need saying) but overall you are north-east (Darlo), oh yeah and Boro, through and through.
You're not like those mugs on Century et al.
Keep up the good work my friend and I guarantee you'll never need to buy a pint in Darlo ever again!
I look forward to seeing you at the Darlo soon and keep up the great work.
Shaun
Jeff's reply
You forget Hartlepool Shaun!
Many thanks for your comments, it is more usual to read and receive derogatory comments because that is the world we live in nowadays.
I don't go out to win popularity - I would never have chosen refereeing as a career if that was my aim. I just try and give an alternative view and look at things from all sides: players, fans and referees.
I am doing a Sportsman's Dinner in Darlington early in the New Year so I might meet you then.
I hope you tune into the shows.
Best Wishes
Jeff
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From: Tom Wandless, 3rd December 2007
Darlington born and bread and now in my 43rd year. Falmouth in Cornwall is a long way away and having lived down here for 27 years it has become more and more difficult to see the Darlo.
Saying that, I will get to three or four home games a season and will try and get to one or two away. It pains me to see 3000 at home games...
I listen on the internet/get my Brother-in-law to text me as he is a season holder and I have sponsored players over the seasons. So how can I who lives 444 miles away want to see Darlington and the sorry sorry people of Darlington can't be bothered?
We need to get into schools, into factories, into businesses and spread the word. My other Brother-in-law says he won't go because of George Reynolds???
We need to get the word out. Come on Darlington people - get your act together and get out on a Saturday and stop being dragged round the shops by your missus.
Regards Tom Wandless
Jeff's reply
Brilliant Tom, if only the club had more like you. I am going to use your sentiments as the basis of my article for the Darlo website this week.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Cliff Marsden, 2nd December 2007
Jeff.
Just a quick one. Is our current plight a big dip in form or is our club going to end up like Charlton did and West Ham almost did, decent talent but no cohesion, no/very little passion (the likes of Downing, Woodgate, Wheater etc not included), and the lack of desire to work for each other?
People keep harping on about supporting the team but untill the team show us they want to play for our club, wear our shirt and improve there own fortunes why should we?
Kind regards
Cliff Marsden
Jeff's reply
Catch 22 here Cliff. Football as well as about ability, passion etc is mostly about confidence. Heads are going down not because of a lack of passion but because of a lack of confidence. When they concede, it's almost a 'here we go again'. The crowd on their backs it is then difficult to lift themselves.
With no one up front who can hold the ball up, it keeps coming back and that is draining on the team.
If, and I mean if, we get Mido back, hopefully with his head on, also with Arca back in midfield creating things I am confident we can get the results.
The bottom half of the League is poor and we are capable of finishing out of the bottom three.
I am concerned by Gareth's admissions that he is unlikely to have much money to spend in January. He may be forced to sell to get enough to buy a striker or two. Problem is who is going to want to join a relegation struggle?
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Simon Price, 1st December 2007
Have you ever regretted giving out a red card?
Jeff's reply
I always looked back and wondered if I could have handled an incident any better.
In all honesty I don't think I ever sent a player off that did not deserve it. I probably kept a few on the field that should have gone, by the letter of the law.
Best wishes
Jeff
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From: Jonathan, 1st December 2007
Hi Jeff
I'm a Hartlepool United fan upset about our defeat down at Gillingham. I think Pools need to do some buying and selling in the January transfer window.
I went to the Boro last week and can't believe that they can't score goals and that their heads dropped after Villa scored. Boro do miss a big striker up front.
I don't blame Southgate but I think they should start looking for a new manager. How about Chris Coleman? He was a good manager.
As for a Forward what about Becksford from Leeds? He can score goals...
Jeff's reply
I think that Danny Wilson will wheel and deal. He is a winner who is not happy with the situation at the moment.
I agree regarding a striker but I do not entirely blame Southgate. Coleman would not be my choice at all and Beckford, whilst capable in League One, is not Premiership class.
Best wishes
Jeff
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